Browsing Tag: 737 MAX

Every two years, Icelandair hosts the Midatlantic travel trade show in Reykjavik, allowing travel vendors from the regions that the airline serves to gather together and present and promote their offerings to travel buyers, travel journalists, and to network with one another.

One of the aisles in the 2023 Midatlantic travel show in Reykjavik
One of the aisles in the 2023 Midatlantic travel show in Reykjavik

It’s always a great event, and this avgeek travel reporter always finds plenty of resources and story ideas there.

Yours truly flying Icelandair's 767 full-motion simulator
Your intrepid writer flying Icelandair’s 767-300ER full-motion simulator

We were also provided opportunities to see some very cool behind-the-scenes stuff at Icelandair. The airline recently completed an addition to their existing training facility in Hafnarfjörður, which is located between the country’s primary airport in Keflavik and the main city, Reykvavik.

Icelandair President and CEO Bogi Nils Bogason addresses a gathering at the airline's new headquarters building
Icelandair President and CEO Bogi Nils Bogason addresses a gathering at the airline’s new headquarters building – you can see one of their training simulators through the window at the top of the stairs behind him

The new building is quite contemportary and very European in its architecture; it’s a lovely addition.

But we were there primarily to see the airplane stuff, and we weren’t disappointed. I was allowed to fly their 767-300 full-motion simulator, and the instructor programmed in a couple approaches to a tricky Icelandic airfield as well as to JFK airport in New York City. I didn’t do too badly, all things considered, especially taking into account that a 767 handles a fair bit differently than the Cessna 172s I’m used to flying back home.

An Icelandair Boeing 737 MAX parked at a hard stand at Keflavik airport
An Icelandair Boeing 737 MAX parked at a hard stand at Keflavik airport

Updates on the Airbus transition

We also got to have lunch with the airline’s C-suite folks and ask whatever questions we had about the airline.

One of the most significant developments for Icelandair is the incorporation of Airbus aircraft into its fleet. Traditionally an all-Boeing airline for its international operations (they do have a half-dozen Bombardier De Havilland Canada DHC-8s for their domestic, Greenland, and Faroe Islands service), Icelandair’s decision to add Airbus planes signaled a profound shift in strategy. The airline’s management has been evaluating the Airbus’ fuel efficiency, operational range, and passenger comfort, and seem pleased with the new jets so far.

Speaking of that, you can read our review of their new A321LR here; it’s definitely a great aircraft.

Icelandair's first A321LR, TF-IAA, at a gate at Stockholm Arlanda Airport following its inaugural revenue flight from KEF
Icelandair’s first A321LR, TF-IAA, at a gate at Stockholm Arlanda Airport following its inaugural revenue flight from KEF

Icelandair is still heavily invested in Boeing, having 21 737 MAX, 11 757s, and three 767s in their current fleet. They currently have two A321LRs, with five more on order, as well as 13 A321XLRs on order, and it’s those jets that will eventually replace the 757s.

The airline is weighing its long-term commitment to Boeing against a potential full transition to Airbus. Factors influencing this decision include cost efficiency, aircraft performance, and overall fleet consistency. While Boeing aircraft have long been the backbone of Icelandair’s operations, the introduction of Airbus jets raises questions about a potential gradual phase-out of the 737 MAX in favor of a more uniform Airbus fleet. However, for now, Bogason said the airline is happy with the MAX fleet and remains committed to maximizing the benefits of its current Boeing aircraft, all the while keeping future fleet options open.

Greenland tourism

Asked about the potential for expanding its service to Greenland, which is poised to become a sought-after tourist destination now that the country has opened a new airport that’s better capable of handling large commercial aircraft and bigger passenger loads, Bogason offered a wait-and-see attitude.

Icelandair serves Greenland via the former Icelandair Connect routes, which it integrated into its own schedule in 2021 after the two consolidated. There are four destinations, currently served by those aforementioned three DHC-8-200 and three DHC-8-400 aircraft. 

With Greenland having opened its expanded main airport at Nuuk in October 2024, which includes a new terminal building and a new 7,200-foot runway, along with both SAS and United announcing seasonal service, tourism is expected to dramatically increase for the arctic nation. Icelandair and Air Greenland are currently the only carriers providing year-round service.

“Greenland is unique. I mean, Iceland is unique, but Greenland is really, really unique. It’s a complex market at the moment, and what makes it complex is that it’s not enough to build the runway. You have to build the hotels and the necessary infrastructure,” said Bogason.

He drew comparisons between Greenland’s current infrastructure and Iceland’s of 20-plus years ago, when the country had plenty of visitors but not enough tourism infrastructure to support them.

“I mean, look, just look at the companies that are in here (in Iceland) today. I mean, think of all of the companies that need to be here to give a good experience to big volumes of passengers. So this will have to be a slow path. I think we may be getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with the big aircraft coming in from the U.S., etc, this summer into into Nuuk,” he said, explaining his caution in expanding too quickly into a market that’s not yet prepared for an onslaught of travelers.

“We’ll see how it pans out, but it’s a big shock to a very, very small market, so it’s a tricky market, I think,” he added.

Getting to be a tourist in Iceland

We were treated several traditional tourist stops during our visit, including the Lava Show, the only place in the world that makes lava daily for an educational experience; the relatively new Sky Lagoon hot-spring spa, along with a bus tour of the Reykjanes Peninsula, which included the Friðheimar tomato farm, the geysir, which is the namesake geyser and is the only Icelandic word adopted into the English language. We also stopped briefly at Þingvellir national park, another geologic wonder and a UNESCO World Heritage Site. It’s a rift valley where the North American and European plates are separating, slowly building new land.

Lastly, we had a most wonderful meal at Sümac Grill + Drinks in downtown Reykjavik. I’m not normally one to mention restaurants, but this place was something special, especially how gracefully they handled my oddball food allergies by actually custom-making what I’d ordered to suit – even the sauces, which are typically premade in resaurants as busy as this one. Stop in and show them some AvGeek love if you’re in town.

Copa is an interesting airline to get to know. Based at the junction of two continents, the Panamanian carrier found its niche connecting the Americas from north to south. It operates a single-type fleet of around 100 Boeing 737s. But compared with other all-737 airlines that follow a low-cost carrier model, Copa is a different beast. It’s a full-service airline with premium cabins and some of the lengthiest 737 routes out there.

As with most of the world’s 737-based airlines, Copa went in big on the MAX, and it was heavily affected by the past few years’ MAX drama. On the bright side, the airline put its best foot forward with the MAX, debuting a brand-new premium cabin branded as “Dreams” business class. The Dreams seat was designed for Copa’s medium-haul services, the four- to seven-hour flights where quality sleep is a big deal.

We got a chance to try Copa and their new MAX seats on a recent trip. We also got to explore the relatively new terminal at the airline’s Panama City hub. The trip hit a snafu midway through, which we’ll get to later. But in the end we still got a good feel for the airline, its new seat design, and the freshest updates to its home airport.

Read on for more on our time flying with Copa and exploring the airport in Panama City.

Poor Mr. MAX, famous for all the wrong reasons. But the dumpster fire otherwise known as 2020 gave the 737 MAX a chance to hide from the news cycle as Boeing fixed its design issues. The FAA held Boeing’s feet to the fire with the recertification, and today I have more than enough trust in the plane to fly it. I got my chance on a medium-haul flight from Miami International to New York LaGuardia earlier this summer.

After all the build-up I was expecting to be either overwhelmed or underwhelmed. But instead, I was just … whelmed. It’s a gorgeous plane, sleeker than the 737’s previous iterations. It’s quieter, has cooler onboard lighting, and plenty of under-the-hood operational benefits for the airlines. I felt very safe on the plane, and about as comfortable as one can expect to be in domestic economy. But as usual, the airline’s choice of onboard product made the biggest impact on the experience. Ultimately, the most memorable parts of the flight were the *amazing* window seat views I got over Miami and New York.

Hop onboard with me for a few thoughts on American’s 737 MAX 8, and for lots of photos and videos from the flight.

The 737 factory in Renton, WA

The 737 factory in Renton, WA

If you have been keeping up with the 737 MAX, you know that the news hasn’t been super great about the aircraft. There are many, many stories you can read out there about what has been going on and we are not wanting to re-hash it all. We can all agree that things are not going well, and it will likely still be a while before anyone has a chance to fly on one (saying that you will want to). Since we are a group of aviation fans that try to celebrate aviation, even in negative times, I decided to just share some really awesome shots of the 737 MAX that our Francis Zera recently took. Feel free to share your thoughts on what is going on with the MAX in the comments; otherwise just enjoy the photos!

Some 737 MAX aircraft parked in Renton.

Some 737 MAX aircraft parked in Renton

All aboard TF-ICU - next stop, ORD.
Boarding TF-ICU, aka Dyrhólaey at Iceland’s Keflavik International Airport, next stop, Chicago’s O’Hare International

The backstory

Loyal readers will recall our 2017 review of Saga Premium (which, at the the time, was called Saga Class) on Icelandair’s venerable 757-200s.

Since then, Icelandair has added several Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets to their fleet (they ordered a total of 16 of the MAX in both the -8 and -9 variants), using them on routes to U.S. destinations on the east coast and upper midwest, along with several European routes.

I flew SEA-KEF on a 757, then returned via Chicago on a 737 MAX 8, as Seattle is, unfortunately, beyond the working range of the MAX 8.

So, two years on, what was it like to fly Saga? Candidly, I was a fan of the last trip, so the memory still felt fairly fresh. My outbound flight was on TF-FIR, aka Vatnajà¶kull, aka 80 years of Aviation, aka the glacier livery.

This AvGeek was stoked at the opportunity to fly on Vatnajà¶kull, even though it was parked at a corner gate between two diagonal jetways at SEA, making photos pretty much impossible that day. IMHO, it’s the one of prettiest planes in the sky today, tied for that honor with Icelandair’s Hekla Aurora livery on TF-FIU.

TF-FIR landing at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport in 2017. I wasn't able to get out on the ramp to get pre-flight photos for this trip, so we'll have to make do with an existing image

TF-FIR landing at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport in 2017. I wasn’t able to get out on the ramp to get pre-flight photos for this trip, so we’ll have to make do with an existing image

The outbound flight from SEA to KEF was as good as the last time – I was in seat 1A for this flight, which is in a bulkhead row. The seats themselves are the same as we reviewed in 2017. They feel even more dated now, especially when compared to contemporary options even on some domestic US carriers, but they’re still very comfortable and offer a generous amount of recline.